In this episode, Judy interviews her friend Kirsten who is a Christian, a millennial AND a lover of the city that she calls home. As she shares her desire and dissatisfaction around the Christian church, her authenticity and humility make it easy to listen and even wonder about things you already know. She’s inviting us to choose wisdom over knowledge, leaning into the mystery and keeping our hearts and minds open to all that awaits our wondering.

No matter where you are coming from, you will most likely resonate with her desire to see the church become more integrated with the world, and to equip individuals to integrate their faith into all aspects of their lives. San Francisco has taught her the goodness of seeing everything and everyone around her as a beautiful mess, embracing it all. This may be part of a journey that teaches your heart the same thing… if you are willing to put resistance aside and listen.

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